[Marxism] Re: State capitalism: some quick replies to Joe and Phil

Louis Proyect lnp3 at panix.com
Tue Dec 14 21:54:12 MST 2004


Tom O'Lincoln:
>But given most people on this list think Soviet society was more advanced
>than capitalism, it seemed relevant to measure it against an advanced
>capitalist country. Surely after 50 years of industrialisation, Actually
>Existing Socialism should be able to withstand such a comparison.

No, I think it would be much more useful to compare Cuba to Jamaica, for 
example. The Soviet economy was hobbled by bureaucratic mismanagement. Cuba 
has been free of these distortions. Apple. Apple.

>The issue isn't egalitarianism, but what proportion of surplus value goes
>to the social wage. My guess is, Sweden would come out ahead, which means
>on Joe's reckoning, the USSR must have been more capitalist.

Did Sweden subsidize the economies of other capitalist nations in the same 
way that the Soviet Union subsidized Cuba, Vietnam and other Comecon 
nations? Apple. Apple.



Louis Proyect
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